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I said no and Apple said yes (dbushell.com)

886 points by thatslast · 19 days ago · 701 comments on HN

Article summary

The author discovered that macOS 15.3 had a feature that was sending personal data to Apple every 15 minutes, which they had opted out of. However, after upgrading to macOS 27, they found that the option to disable this feature had been removed. The author criticizes Apple and the AI industry for not respecting user consent and privacy. The author also mentions that the new operating system has several features that are enabled by default, despite the author's previous opt-out.

Main themes

  • user consent
  • privacy
  • dark patterns
  • AI industry ethics
  • user autonomy
  • transparency and control

What commenters say

  • Some users feel that companies like Apple do not provide a clear way to opt out of features and instead use dark patterns to nudge users into enabling them.
  • The use of 'maybe later' or 'not now' buttons can be seen as a way to avoid giving users a definitive choice, making it difficult for them to make a decision.
  • Others argue that providing a 'not now' option can be helpful, as it allows users to reconsider their decision later without being prompted again.
  • Some commenters suggest that a clear 'yes' or 'no' option with additional information on how to change the setting later would be a better approach.
  • The removal of the opt-out option in macOS 27 is seen as a violation of user consent and privacy.
  • The AI industry is criticized for its lack of respect for user consent and privacy, with some arguing that it prioritizes its own interests over user autonomy.
  • There is a desire for more transparency and control over how user data is collected and used, with some suggesting that users should be able to make informed decisions about their data.
  • The use of 'ask me again later' buttons is seen as particularly problematic, as it can lead to repeated prompts and annoyance for users.