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216M Spy TVs – The LG Smart TV Problem [video] (youtube.com)

853 points by treve · 1 day ago · 970 comments on HN

Article summary

The article discusses a video that reveals LG Smart TVs' ability to record and upload conversations, as well as gather data and metadata from devices on the network. The TVs have multiple microphones that cannot be disabled and can analyze network data to understand which applications are being run. The video also shows that the TVs can capture ambient conversations and switch microphone recording easily. The extent of the TV's recording capabilities and whether it can be initiated manually or automatically is a topic of discussion among commenters.

Main themes

  • Smart TV privacy concerns
  • Data collection and surveillance
  • Consumer trust and corporate accountability
  • Regulation and legislation
  • Technological threats to privacy
  • Internet of Things security risks

What commenters say

  • Some commenters believe that LG's actions are a severe violation of consumer trust and privacy, and that the company's behavior is arrogant and disrespectful.
  • Others argue that the video does not provide conclusive evidence that the TV is automatically recording conversations without user initiation.
  • There is a concern that this issue may not be limited to LG TVs, but could be a widespread problem among smart TV manufacturers.
  • Some commenters suggest that using a projector or not owning a TV at all could be a way to avoid this issue, while others believe that regulation is necessary to protect consumers.
  • The use of residential proxies and IoT devices is also seen as a potential threat to consumer privacy and security.
  • A few commenters mention that other companies, such as Samsung, may be using similar technologies, such as peer-to-peer mesh networks, to gather data from their devices.
  • The possibility of LG including cell modems in their TVs in the future, allowing them to connect to the internet without a user's knowledge or consent, is also discussed as a potential concern.