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Born Against, or why hobby programming communities are against LLM usage (blog.fogus.me)

442 points by lladnar · 21 days ago · 524 comments on HN

Article summary

The article discusses why hobby programming communities are hostile towards the use of Large Language Models (LLMs) in programming. The author suggests that the process of mastering a difficult field is the primary goal for these communities, and using LLMs would undermine this process. The article also touches on the idea that expertise does not guarantee immunity against being fooled by LLMs. The author reflects on the evolving thoughts on LLMs and their impact on programming communities.

Main themes

  • Hobby programming communities
  • LLM usage
  • Craftsmanship in programming
  • Automation and creativity
  • Expertise and LLMs

What commenters say

  • The use of LLMs in programming undermines the creative process and the value of manual craftsmanship.
  • LLMs can be a useful tool for hobbyists to focus on the enjoyable parts of programming, rather than tedious tasks.
  • The introduction of LLMs will lead to a decline in the value and pay of software engineers who rely on them.
  • Some programmers enjoy the process of coding and debugging, and LLMs take away from this experience.
  • Others see LLMs as a means to accelerate their work and have more time for creative and interesting tasks.
  • The use of LLMs will change the profession of software engineering, but the value of an engineer lies in their ability to solve problems, not just complete tasks.
  • LLMs can be a helpful tool for learning new skills and technologies, and can aid in the creation of custom software.
  • The impact of LLMs on programming communities is not universally negative, and some hobbyists are having a blast using them to create and learn.