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It's hard to justify buying a Framework 12 (jeffgeerling.com)

398 points by watermelon0 · 92 days ago · 669 comments on HN

Article summary

The author compares the Framework 12 laptop to the MacBook Neo, finding the Neo to be faster, more efficient, and better built, despite the Framework 12's repairability and upgradeability features. The author's nephew chose the MacBook Neo due to its better value. The Framework 12's display and speakers are also found to be inferior. The author notes that while the Framework 12 is not a bad laptop, it is a bad value compared to the Neo.

Main themes

  • Laptop comparison
  • Repairability and upgradeability
  • Value for money
  • Performance and efficiency
  • Build quality and design

What commenters say

  • The Framework 12's upgradability and repairability features are not enough to justify its higher price compared to the MacBook Neo.
  • Some users prioritize repairability and upgradeability over performance and value, making the Framework 12 a better choice for them.
  • The MacBook Neo's repairability is still limited despite being the most repairable MacBook in years, and the Framework 12 offers more flexibility in this regard.
  • The value of a laptop lies not only in its current performance but also in its potential for future upgrades and repairs, making the Framework 12 a worthwhile investment for some users.
  • The Framework 12's current performance and features do not justify its premium price, and users should not purchase a product based on its potential future upgrades.
  • The ability to upgrade individual components over time makes the Framework 12 a more sustainable and cost-effective option in the long run.
  • The comparison between the Framework 12 and the MacBook Neo is not just about performance, but also about the values of sustainability, repairability, and upgradeability.
  • The Framework 12's modular design and upgradability features are a statement about the importance of reducing electronic waste and promoting sustainability in the tech industry.