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Citing 'severe' math deficits, UC faculty demand a return to SAT tests for STEM (latimes.com)

654 points by brandonb · 46 days ago · 868 comments on HN

Article summary

The University of California (UC) faculty are urging a return to standardized testing, such as the SAT or ACT, for STEM applicants due to concerns about math deficits. A report from UC San Diego found a significant increase in math unpreparedness among incoming students. The faculty argue that standardized testing is necessary to assess college readiness, while critics claim that the SAT is inequitable and that high school grades are a good predictor of college success. The UC system had previously suspended standardized testing requirements in 2020 due to concerns about bias and access.

Main themes

  • Standardized testing
  • Math education
  • College admissions
  • Equity and access
  • STEM education
  • University policy

What commenters say

  • The surge in math deficiencies after dropping the SAT highlights a systemic issue of grade inflation, which harms underprivileged students the most.
  • Standardized testing is not a perfect solution, but it provides a more level playing field for students from different socioeconomic backgrounds.
  • The wealthy can still find ways to game the system, whether through expensive test prep or elite extracurricular activities, so standardized testing may not be an effective solution to address inequality.
  • The SAT is too easy and does not adequately distinguish between top students, making it difficult for the most talented students to stand out.
  • The emphasis on standardized testing overlooks the fact that professional sports and other extracurricular activities can be just as expensive and exclusive, and may not be a more equitable alternative.
  • The problem lies not with the SAT, but with the admissions criteria, which should prioritize students who score near perfect on the test.
  • A more challenging test that escalates in complexity could better identify top students and provide a more accurate assessment of college readiness.
  • The current system of standardized testing and college admissions may be flawed, but it is still the best available option for identifying and supporting talented students from all backgrounds.