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Canada to order military plane fleet from Sweden in shift from US suppliers (theguardian.com)

623 points by tosh · 47 days ago · 487 comments on HN

Article summary

Canada has announced plans to purchase a fleet of early warning planes from Sweden's Saab, shifting away from US suppliers. The decision is seen as a move to reduce reliance on US defense firms and strengthen ties with Sweden, a new NATO ally. The Saab GlobalEye planes will be used to patrol Canada's Arctic territory. The purchase is part of Canada's efforts to take full responsibility for protecting its vast Arctic territory.

Main themes

  • Canada-Sweden defense cooperation
  • US-Canada relations
  • Military procurement
  • Arctic security
  • NATO alliances

What commenters say

  • The US's unreliable behavior and protectionism have driven Canada to seek alternative defense partners like Sweden.
  • Canada's decision to purchase Saab's GlobalEye planes is a sensible choice given the plane's capabilities and the country's specific needs.
  • The F-35 and other US-made planes may not be the best fit for Canada's military needs, and alternative options like the Saab Gripen should be considered.
  • The US's actions, including tariffs and trade disputes, have damaged its relationships with allies like Canada and pushed them to diversify their defense partnerships.
  • Canada's military procurement decisions are often driven by political considerations rather than purely military needs, leading to questionable choices like the F-35 purchase.
  • The F-15EX is a capable plane, but its high maintenance costs and operational requirements may make it less suitable for Canada's underfunded military.
  • Sweden's ability to maintain a strong defense industry despite its small population is an interesting contrast to Canada's struggles in this area.
  • The rise of drone technology and anti-drone weapons is changing the nature of air base defense and highlighting the vulnerabilities of large, elaborate air bases.