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Caveman: Why use many token when few token do trick (github.com)

904 points by tosh · 101 days ago · 366 comments on HN

Article summary

The article discusses a tool called Caveman, which is a skill/plugin for various AI coding agents that makes them communicate in a concise, caveman-like language, reducing output tokens by 65%. This is achieved by dropping filler words and keeping only the essential information, without affecting code, commands, or errors. The tool is designed to work with multiple agents and can be installed with a single command. The goal is to make the agents more efficient and cost-effective.

Main themes

  • AI coding agents
  • Concise communication
  • Token reduction
  • Language models
  • Efficiency
  • Cost-effectiveness

What commenters say

  • The use of concise language in AI coding agents can improve their efficiency and reduce costs, but may also limit their ability to provide detailed explanations.
  • Some argue that the reduction of tokens can lead to a loss of nuance and accuracy in the agents' responses, while others see it as a way to improve readability and speed.
  • The concept of 'thinking' in language models is not well-defined and may not be directly related to the number of tokens used, with some arguing that more tokens do not necessarily mean more 'thinking'.
  • The use of anthropomorphic language to describe AI behavior can be misleading and create unrealistic expectations, but it can also be a useful way to convey complex ideas and concepts.
  • The relationship between token reduction and the accuracy of language models is not straightforward, and more research is needed to understand the trade-offs involved.
  • Some commenters suggest that the Caveman tool may be useful for certain tasks, but not for others, and that the optimal level of concision may depend on the specific application and context.