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German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad (dw.com)

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Article summary

A new military service law in Germany requires men between 18 and 45 to obtain approval from the Bundeswehr to leave the country for more than three months. The law aims to boost the strength of the armed forces amid threats to European security. The provision applies regardless of the reason for leaving, including studying, working, or traveling abroad. The Bundeswehr must issue the permit if no specific military service is expected during the period in question.

Main themes

  • Military Service Law
  • German National Security
  • Conscription and Draft
  • Travel Restrictions
  • Gender Equality
  • National Defense

What commenters say

  • The new law is seen as draconian and an erosion of civil liberties, with some arguing that it is a step towards full conscription.
  • Some commenters believe that a strong, volunteer military force is more effective and compatible with human rights, rather than relying on conscription.
  • The law's requirement for men to obtain permission to leave the country is viewed as discriminatory and sexist, with some arguing that it reinforces harmful gender stereotypes.
  • Others argue that the law is necessary for national defense and that men have a responsibility to defend their country, with some suggesting that the ends justify the means.
  • Some commenters are concerned that the law will have unintended consequences, such as intensifying serial polygamy and single motherhood, and that it will be difficult to implement and enforce.
  • There is disagreement over whether the law is a deliberate change or an unintended consequence of other legislation, with some arguing that it is a result of government incompetence.
  • Some argue that the concept of conscription is outdated and that modern societies should rely on volunteer forces, while others believe that it is still necessary for national security.
  • The law's impact on gender equality and the value placed on men's and women's lives is a point of contention, with some arguing that it reinforces harmful and sexist attitudes.