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Qwen3.6-Plus: Towards real world agents (qwen.ai)

596 points by pretext · 151 days ago · 213 comments on HN

Article summary

The article discusses the release of Qwen3.6-Plus, a new model that is not open-weight, and its comparison to Opus 4.5. The model's performance is benchmarked, but some commenters question the choice of comparing it to an older version of Opus. The company has announced plans to open-source smaller-scale variants of the model. The discussion revolves around the implications of this release and the company's business model.

Main themes

  • AI model releases
  • Open-source vs closed-source models
  • Business models for AI companies
  • Benchmarking and comparison
  • Accessibility and community-driven innovation

What commenters say

  • The choice to compare Qwen3.6-Plus to Opus 4.5 instead of the latest Opus 4.6 is seen as misleading by some commenters.
  • The company's decision to keep the Qwen3.6-Plus model closed-source is viewed as a strategic move to protect their business interests.
  • Some commenters argue that there is a market for non-state-of-the-art models that can be served at a lower cost, while others disagree and think that everyone wants the best model available.
  • The use of smaller, non-state-of-the-art models can be beneficial for certain tasks, such as automated workflows and data analysis, where cost and efficiency are important factors.
  • The company's announcement to open-source smaller-scale variants of the model is seen as a commitment to accessibility and community-driven innovation, but some commenters are skeptical about the long-term implications.
  • The comparison to Opus 4.5 is defended by some as reasonable, given that Qwen 3.5 was released only two months ago and the company may not have had time to fully compare it to the latest Opus model.
  • The closed-source nature of the Qwen3.6-Plus model is not seen as a significant departure from the company's previous practices, as they have always had closed-source variants of their models.