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Cloudflare flags archive.today as "C&C/Botnet"; no longer resolves via 1.1.1.2 (radar.cloudflare.com)

418 points by winkelmann · 162 days ago · 295 comments on HN

Article summary

Cloudflare has flagged archive.today as a Command and Control/Botnet server, causing its 'No Malware' DNS resolver, 1.1.1.2, to refuse resolution of the domain. This decision has sparked a discussion about the site's history of controversy, including allegations of DDoS attacks and content manipulation. Archive.today has been involved in disputes with Cloudflare and other entities in the past, with some users defending the site's archiving services and others criticizing its actions. The site's reputation and trustworthiness are being debated.

Main themes

  • Cloudflare DNS
  • Archive.today controversy
  • DDoS attacks
  • Content manipulation
  • Trust and reputation
  • Censorship and filtering

What commenters say

  • Archive.today's actions, including DDoS attacks and content manipulation, justify Cloudflare's decision to flag the site as malicious.
  • The site's archiving services are valuable and its flaws do not warrant a complete loss of trust.
  • Cloudflare's decision to flag archive.today is an overreach of its authority and an example of censorship.
  • The site's history of controversy, including allegations of DDoS attacks and content manipulation, makes it untrustworthy and deserving of scrutiny.
  • The distinction between editing and deleting archived pages is crucial, with the former being a more serious issue than the latter.
  • Archive.today's actions are no worse than those of other entities, such as Archive.org, which also has issues with content manipulation.
  • The site's operator has shown a willingness to engage in malicious behavior and therefore should not be trusted.
  • Redemption is possible for archive.today if it takes steps to address its past controversies and demonstrate a commitment to responsible behavior.