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Banned in California (bannedincalifornia.org)

633 points by pie_flavor · 141 days ago · 716 comments on HN

Article summary

The article discusses how various industrial processes, such as those used in manufacturing smartphones, electric cars, and naval destroyers, are no longer permitted in California due to environmental regulations. Many of these processes involve toxic chemicals, hazardous waste, and air emissions, making it difficult to obtain permits. As a result, companies have opted to build facilities in other states or countries with less stringent regulations. This has led to concerns that California has outsourced its industrial base while still consuming the products.

Main themes

  • Environmental regulations
  • Industrial manufacturing
  • California's economic policies
  • Toxic chemicals and waste
  • Global supply chains

What commenters say

  • Some commenters argue that banning industrial processes in California is hypocritical if the state still consumes products made using those processes elsewhere.
  • Others believe that the regulations are necessary to protect public health and the environment, even if it means outsourcing industrial production.
  • A few commenters suggest that the regulations are too restrictive and stifle innovation and economic growth in the state.
  • Some argue that the issue is not just about environmental regulations, but also about labor costs and protections, which can make it difficult for manufacturers to operate in the US.
  • There is a disagreement about whether the regulations are effective in reducing pollution, with some arguing that they simply export the problem to other countries or states.
  • A few commenters point out that some industrial processes, such as those using VOCs, are not as problematic as claimed, and that manufacturers are already using compliant alternatives.
  • Others argue that the focus on environmental regulations overlooks the importance of considering the global supply chain and the impact of consumption patterns on the environment.
  • Some commenters believe that the solution lies in finding ways to make industrial processes cleaner and more sustainable, rather than simply banning them or outsourcing them to other locations.