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Why are there so many rationalist cults? (asteriskmag.com)

544 points by glenstein · 350 days ago · 911 comments on HN

Article summary

The rationalist community, which emerged from Eliezer Yudkowsky's blog posts on rational thinking, has spawned several groups with unusual and sometimes harmful beliefs. Some of these groups, such as the Zizians and Black Lotus, have been linked to violent incidents and trauma. The article suggests that the community's emphasis on critical thinking and skepticism can sometimes backfire, leading to a desire for charismatic leaders and a lack of nuance in evaluating ideas. The community's appeal to vulnerable individuals, such as those with mental health issues or trauma, can also contribute to the formation of dysfunctional groups.

Main themes

  • Rationalist community
  • Cult formation
  • Critical thinking
  • Vulnerability and trauma
  • Charismatic leadership
  • Online communities

What commenters say

  • The rise of cults can be attributed to people's desire for belonging and connection in a world experiencing a loneliness and isolation epidemic.
  • The name 'rationalism' is problematic because it implies a monopoly on rational thinking and can be seen as arrogant or dismissive of other perspectives.
  • The rationalist community's emphasis on critical thinking and skepticism can actually make its members more vulnerable to charismatic leaders and cult-like behavior.
  • The article's focus on the rationalist community is misplaced, and the phenomenon of cult formation is more broadly related to human psychology and the search for meaning and connection.
  • The use of terms like 'rationalism' or 'objectivism' can be seen as a shield for unpalatable beliefs, allowing individuals to claim that their conclusions are based on objective facts rather than personal opinions.
  • The internet and social media have made it easier for people to find and join groups that cater to their interests and desires, including those that may be harmful or cult-like.
  • The formation of cults is often linked to the desire for a sense of importance, heroism, or special knowledge, which can be exploited by charismatic leaders.
  • The article's portrayal of the rationalist community is unfair, and the community's emphasis on critical thinking and skepticism is actually a positive force that can help individuals avoid cult-like behavior.