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Framework's first desktop is a strange–but unique–mini ITX gaming PC (arstechnica.com)

554 points by perihelions · 524 days ago · 534 comments on HN

Article summary

Framework has announced its first desktop PC, a mini ITX gaming PC powered by an AMD Ryzen AI Max processor and Radeon 8060S integrated GPU. The system is small, with a volume of 4.5 liters, and is priced starting at $1,099. It has limited modularity, with soldered RAM and a non-upgradeable CPU and GPU. The system is aimed at those who want a small, powerful desktop PC and are willing to pay a premium for it.

Main themes

  • Modular PC design
  • Mini ITX gaming PCs
  • AMD Ryzen AI Max processor
  • Integrated GPUs
  • Small form factor PCs
  • Upgradability and repairability

What commenters say

  • The Framework Desktop's limited modularity and high price make it a strange fit for a company that has emphasized upgradability and repairability in its laptops.
  • The system's small size and high performance make it an attractive option for those who want a compact gaming PC, but its price may be prohibitively expensive for some.
  • The use of soldered RAM and a non-upgradeable CPU and GPU may be a trade-off for the system's small size and high performance, but it may also limit its appeal to some users.
  • The Framework Desktop's unique combination of small size and high performance may make it an attractive option for specific use cases, such as running local LLMs and image generation models.
  • Some commenters believe that the system's price is justified by its performance and features, while others think that it is too expensive compared to other options on the market.
  • The system's limited modularity may not be a major issue for some users, who may be willing to trade off upgradability for a compact and powerful PC.
  • Others argue that the system's design and pricing make it less competitive with other mini ITX gaming PCs and DIY options.
  • The Framework Desktop's announcement has sparked discussion about the trade-offs between size, performance, and upgradability in PC design.