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Something weird is happening with LLMs and chess (dynomight.substack.com)

696 points by crescit_eundo · 630 days ago · 474 comments on HN

Article summary

The article discusses the unexpected performance of large language models (LLMs) in playing chess, with some models showing surprising proficiency. The exact reason for this proficiency is unclear, with some speculating that the models may be using external chess engines or relying on pre-programmed responses. The discussion revolves around the possibility of LLMs truly understanding chess strategies or simply generating moves based on patterns in the data. The article's content is not directly available, but the comments provide insight into the topic.

Main themes

  • LLM performance on chess
  • Tokenization limitations
  • Neural engine speculation
  • Chess strategy understanding
  • Model training data

What commenters say

  • Some LLMs may be using external chess engines to generate moves, rather than truly understanding the game.
  • The sudden improvement in chess performance could be due to the addition of more chess PGNs to the training data.
  • Tokenization may be limiting the potential of LLMs, and using character-level input could lead to better performance.
  • The use of pre-programmed responses or external engines would be a significant issue, as it would undermine the perceived intelligence of the models.
  • The performance of LLMs on chess may not be representative of their overall intelligence or strategic understanding.
  • Alternative tokenization methods, such as using individual characters as tokens, could potentially improve model performance but may be computationally expensive.
  • The possibility of LLMs being able to truly understand and play chess is still uncertain and requires further investigation.
  • The improvement in chess performance could be due to the model's ability to recognize patterns in the data, rather than a genuine understanding of the game.