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A forged Apple employee badge (cabel.com)

952 points by ecliptik · 820 days ago · 348 comments on HN

Article summary

A blogger investigated an eBay auction for an allegedly rare Apple employee badge, purportedly belonging to Apple's 10th employee, Sherry Livingston. The blogger, with the help of Chris Espinosa, Apple's 8th employee, determined the badge to be a fake. The seller provided a fake invoice from the German Red Cross as proof of the badge's authenticity. The item was sold before the blogger could finish their investigation, for $946.

Main themes

  • Fake collectibles
  • eBay scams
  • Apple history
  • Authentication
  • Trust and verification

What commenters say

  • The burden of proof lies with the seller to verify the authenticity of rare collectibles, and such items should be considered fake by default unless proven otherwise.
  • The presence of an invoice or certificate of authenticity does not necessarily guarantee the item's legitimacy, as these can also be faked.
  • Some argue that the detective work done by the blogger was unnecessary, as the onus is on the seller to provide proof of authenticity, while others see value in raising awareness about potential scams.
  • The concept of trust and verification is complex, and even trusted parties can be compromised, highlighting the need for multiple layers of verification and critical thinking.
  • The fact that the item was sold for a significant amount of money despite being fake raises questions about the effectiveness of eBay's policies and the gullibility of buyers.
  • Some commenters believe that the article will ultimately lead to better-informed buyers and more sophisticated scams, as fraudsters learn from their mistakes and improve their tactics.
  • The authenticity of certificates of authenticity can be problematic, as it relies on trust in the issuing party, which can be compromised or fabricated.
  • The issue of fake collectibles and scams is not unique to eBay, but rather a symptom of a broader problem of trust and verification in online marketplaces and society at large.