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Privacy is priceless, but Signal is expensive (signal.org)

1114 points by mikece · 1010 days ago · 906 comments on HN

Article summary

Signal, a nonprofit private messaging app, spends tens of millions of dollars annually to operate, with significant costs including infrastructure, labor, and registration fees. The app's end-to-end encryption technology and commitment to privacy come at a cost, with expenses such as storage, servers, and bandwidth totaling approximately $14 million per year. Signal relies on donations to support its operations, aiming to become fully supported by small donors. The app's costs are a necessary investment in providing a private and secure communication platform.

Main themes

  • Signal's operational costs
  • Privacy and security trade-offs
  • Registration and verification methods
  • Infrastructure and scalability
  • Nonprofit funding models
  • Phone number-based identification

What commenters say

  • Decoupling Signal user identity from phone numbers could reduce registration costs, but may compromise ease of use and discoverability.
  • Using phone numbers as identifiers is convenient, but may compromise privacy and anonymity.
  • Alternative verification methods, such as usernames or email addresses, could be explored to reduce reliance on expensive SMS verification.
  • The cost of SMS verification is a significant burden for Signal, but eliminating it may not be feasible due to the need to prevent spam accounts.
  • Signal's infrastructure costs are high due to the need for global distribution and high-performance servers to support real-time communication.
  • The use of phone numbers as identifiers is not the only factor contributing to Signal's costs, and other expenses such as bandwidth and storage are also significant.
  • Reducing costs while maintaining privacy and security is a key challenge for Signal, and may require innovative solutions and trade-offs.
  • Some commenters argue that Signal's costs are justified by the importance of privacy and security, while others suggest that the app could be more efficient and cost-effective in its operations.