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The Frustration Loop (herman.bearblog.dev)

482 points by zdw · 1068 days ago · 142 comments on HN

Article summary

The article discusses the author's experience with spam on their free-to-use platform, Bear, and their efforts to combat it using a spam detection tool called Akismet. However, spammers found ways to circumvent the tool, leading the author to implement a new approach called the Frustration Loop, which wastes spammers' time by throwing fake system errors and making it difficult for them to submit spam content. This approach has been successful in reducing spam on the platform. The author notes that while this method may occasionally affect legitimate users, it has been effective in reducing spam.

Main themes

  • spam detection
  • shadow banning
  • online moderation
  • content filtering
  • platform transparency
  • user experience
  • free speech and censorship
  • grammar and punctuation as a filter

What commenters say

  • Some commenters shared their own experiences with similar approaches to dealing with spammers, such as a plugin that slowed down the site for hellbanned users.
  • The use of shadow banning, or hiding posts from certain users, is a controversial topic, with some arguing it is a form of censorship and others seeing it as a necessary tool for managing online communities.
  • There are different levels of shadow banning, ranging from completely hiding posts to limiting their reach and promotion.
  • The line between shadow banning and simply not promoting certain content is blurry, and some argue that the two are distinct issues.
  • Others argue that any form of hidden penalty or limitation on a user's ability to post or be seen is a form of shadow banning.
  • Some commenters suggested that platforms should be more transparent about their moderation practices and provide clearer guidelines for users.
  • The issue of spam and trolling is not unique to online platforms, but is a problem that has existed in various forms of media throughout history.
  • The use of grammar and punctuation as a way to filter out bots is not a reliable method, as it can also affect non-native speakers and others who may not write perfectly.
  • There is a need for more effective and transparent tools for managing online content and reducing noise, such as a 'content condensor' that can help users wade through large amounts of information.