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Tesla recalls 360k vehicles, says full self-driving beta may cause crashes (cnbc.com)

727 points by jeffpalmer · 1294 days ago · 814 comments on HN

Article summary

Tesla is recalling 362,758 vehicles equipped with its Full Self-Driving Beta software due to potential safety issues, including the system's ability to cause crashes by acting unsafely around intersections or responding insufficiently to changes in posted speed limits. The recall will be addressed through an over-the-air software update. The affected vehicles include certain models of the Tesla Model S, Model X, Model 3, and Model Y. The recall is a result of an investigation by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.

Main themes

  • Tesla recall
  • Full Self-Driving Beta
  • autonomous driving safety
  • software updates
  • regulatory oversight
  • public perception and media coverage

What commenters say

  • The term 'recall' is misleading when it refers to a software update rather than a physical modification to the vehicle.
  • Tesla's Full Self-Driving Beta system is not reliable enough to be trusted, even with a high success rate, due to the potential risks of accidents.
  • The system's limitations and potential flaws are inherent to its current design and may require significant changes to ensure safety.
  • The media often sensationalizes Tesla's recalls, failing to clarify that they are typically software updates rather than physical recalls.
  • Some argue that the system is not yet ready for widespread use and that users are essentially paying to be beta testers.
  • Others believe that the system has the potential to be significantly better than human drivers, but it needs further development and refinement.
  • The expectations set by Tesla's marketing and branding may be contributing to the controversy surrounding the Full Self-Driving Beta system.
  • There is a need for clearer communication and education about the capabilities and limitations of autonomous driving systems like Tesla's Full Self-Driving Beta.