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Tesla FSD data is getting worse, according to beta tester self-reports (electrek.co)

546 points by mfiguiere · 1362 days ago · 623 comments on HN

Article summary

Tesla's Full Self-Driving (FSD) Beta data, as reported by a group of beta testers, shows a decline in performance, with miles driven per disengagement decreasing by 54% since March. This data is limited, but it suggests that the FSD Beta program may not be making progress. Tesla has not released official disengagement data, unlike other companies developing self-driving systems. The lack of transparency and the reported poor performance of FSD Beta have raised concerns among users and experts.

Main themes

  • Tesla FSD Beta performance
  • Lack of transparency
  • Autonomous driving safety
  • Beta testing ethics
  • Comparison to other self-driving systems
  • Regulatory concerns

What commenters say

  • The current state of Tesla's FSD Beta is unacceptable and dangerous, with many users reporting near-misses and erratic behavior.
  • The lack of transparency from Tesla regarding FSD Beta's performance data is suspicious and undermines trust in the company.
  • Some users have had positive experiences with FSD Beta, but these may not be representative of the average user's experience.
  • The comparison of FSD Beta's performance to other self-driving systems is unfair, as these systems are designed for different use cases and environments.
  • Tesla's decision to use customers as beta testers for FSD Beta is unethical and potentially illegal.
  • The company's failure to release safety data quarterly, as promised, is a red flag and suggests that the data may be unfavorable.
  • The FSD Beta system's limitations and flaws are not surprising, given the complexity of the task and the current state of autonomous driving technology.
  • The use of FSD Beta on public roads poses a risk to other drivers and pedestrians, and should be more heavily regulated or restricted.