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Tell HN: Brother printers now locking out non-OEM paraphernalia

500 points by b112 · 1541 days ago · 294 comments on HN

Article summary

The author recently purchased a Brother color laser printer and discovered that it locks out non-OEM toner after a firmware update. The printer accepts third-party toner but intentionally reduces print quality. This change in policy is seen as a negative development by the author, who had chosen Brother to avoid vendor lock-in. The author is considering returning the printer.

Main themes

  • printer vendor lock-in
  • third-party toner restrictions
  • Epson EcoTank alternative
  • proprietary ink systems
  • regulatory oversight
  • consumer choice and competition
  • printer maintenance and repair issues
  • ethics of intentional product degradation

What commenters say

  • Some commenters recommend avoiding Brother and HP printers due to their restrictive policies on third-party toner.
  • Epson's EcoTank line is suggested as a viable alternative that uses refillable ink bottles.
  • Others have had negative experiences with Epson printers, including issues with waste ink pads and maintenance programs.
  • There is a desire for laws or regulations to prevent companies from restricting the use of third-party ink and toner.
  • Some argue that proprietary ink and toner systems are anti-competitive and lead to higher prices.
  • A few commenters have had positive experiences with HP and Brother printers, contradicting the negative views expressed by others.
  • The practice of intentionally reducing print quality when using third-party toner is seen as unethical and potentially illegal by some.
  • The need for user-replaceable parts and more transparent maintenance programs is highlighted by some commenters.