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Zillow lost money because they weren't willing to lose money (stevenbuccini.com)

526 points by mjmayank · 1761 days ago · 371 comments on HN

Article summary

Zillow's iBuying business failed due to its inability to stomach the uncertainty and potential losses required to build a successful algorithmic underwriting system. The company oversimplified the problem and relied on existing data, rather than building a new organization with the necessary technical and cultural mindset. This led to a $500 million loss and the shutdown of the division. The article argues that Zillow's approach was flawed and that building a successful system requires rigor, a willingness to take risks, and a deep understanding of the data and the problem being solved.

Main themes

  • algorithmic underwriting
  • risk management
  • data quality
  • machine learning
  • real estate investing
  • business strategy
  • adverse selection
  • feedback cycle time

What commenters say

  • Zillow's failure was due to its inability to build a good lasting algorithm in a dynamic world, where even seasoned Wall Street algorithms have failed.
  • The company's data and methodology were flawed, and they weren't willing to pay the price to fix it.
  • Zillow's management made a rational decision to cut losses and abandon the iBuying business, rather than continuing to throw money at a failing venture.
  • The company's mistake was trying to de-risk their new venture, which is often incompatible with launching a new business strategy.
  • Some argue that Zillow's failure was not due to risk aversion, but rather a lack of understanding of the market and the need for a more complex model.
  • Others believe that the company's approach was not entirely flawed, and that they could have succeeded with more accurate market price estimations.
  • The feedback cycle time for real estate investments is much longer than for other assets, such as advertising, which increases the risk and makes it harder to adjust the model.
  • Adverse selection is a major issue in machine learning models for pricing, and it's not clear if training the model on this selection can actually lead to better outcomes.