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Debian 11 (debian.org)

579 points by marcodiego · 1867 days ago · 285 comments on HN

Article summary

The article appears to be about the release of Debian 11, but the text is not available. The comments discuss the release and its implications for developers, including the version of PHP included. Debian 11 will be using PHP 7.4, which is not the latest version. The comments also touch on the topic of using Debian as a base system and installing newer software versions manually or through third-party repositories.

Main themes

  • Debian 11 release
  • PHP versioning
  • LTS and software support
  • Debian release cycle
  • Software installation and management
  • Stability vs. newest features

What commenters say

  • Debian's release cycle can lead to outdated software versions, causing frustration for developers who need newer features.
  • Using Debian stable as a base system and installing newer software versions manually or through third-party repositories can be a viable solution.
  • The concept of LTS (Long Term Support) is vendor-specific and does not necessarily apply to the OpenJDK project.
  • PHP skills learned years ago are still relevant today, but the language has undergone significant changes, making it difficult to use older knowledge.
  • The Debian release cycle is not suitable for developers who need the latest software versions, and alternative approaches such as using Docker or third-party repositories are necessary.
  • The inclusion of older software versions in Debian stable is a deliberate design choice to ensure stability and security.
  • Developers can use third-party repositories, such as deb.sury.org, to install newer versions of software like PHP on Debian systems.
  • The use of older software versions in Debian stable can be a problem for developers who need newer features, but it also provides a stable base system for other use cases.