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US Secret Service: “Massive Fraud” Against State Unemployment Insurance Programs (krebsonsecurity.com)

676 points by elsewhen · 2333 days ago · 619 comments on HN

Article summary

The US Secret Service has reported a massive fraud against state unemployment insurance programs. The discussion reveals that the fraud involves receiving multiple unemployment benefits from different states, with some commenters surprised that banks do not have the ability to detect such suspicious behavior. However, others argue that it is not the bank's responsibility to prevent such fraud, but rather the state unemployment insurance departments. The conversation also touches on the role of technology and data science in preventing fraud and the challenges faced by government agencies in implementing effective solutions.

Main themes

  • unemployment insurance fraud
  • bank responsibility
  • government accountability
  • technology and data science
  • privacy and security
  • regulations and restrictions
  • crime prevention
  • government bureaucracy

What commenters say

  • Banks should be responsible for detecting and reporting suspicious transactions, including those related to unemployment benefits.
  • It is not the bank's responsibility to prevent fraud, but rather the state unemployment insurance departments that should invest in KYC-like systems and knowledge authentication.
  • The use of open-source code and independent application security assessments could be a viable solution to improve the security of unemployment systems.
  • The current system is flawed due to the lack of accountability and engineering mindset in government agencies, leading to financial fraud with no repercussions.
  • Some argue that the responsibility lies with the voters who allocate tax dollars in a way that neglects the importance of preventing fraud.
  • Others propose that making all public transactions public could help detect and prevent fraud, but this raises concerns about privacy and the need for warrants or just cause.
  • There are differing opinions on the effectiveness of restrictions on access to certain goods, such as pseudoephedrine, in preventing crime and the need for a more nuanced approach.
  • The conversation also highlights the challenges faced by law-abiding citizens, such as those in Canada, who are affected by sweeping bans and restrictions on certain items, including firearms and ammunition.