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Big ISPs aren’t happy about Google’s plans for encrypted DNS (arstechnica.com)

645 points by Deinos · 2573 days ago · 434 comments on HN

Article summary

Google's plan to implement encrypted DNS, known as DNS over HTTPS (DoH), has been met with resistance from major Internet service providers (ISPs). The ISPs claim that DoH could interfere with critical Internet functions and raise data-competition issues. However, Google argues that these concerns are groundless and that the company has no plans to switch Chrome users to its own DNS servers. The implementation of DoH aims to improve user privacy and security by encrypting DNS queries, making it harder for ISPs to monitor or modify them.

Main themes

  • DNS over HTTPS
  • Internet Service Providers
  • User Privacy
  • Encryption
  • Browser Security

What commenters say

  • The implementation of DoH will limit ISPs' ability to monitor and manipulate user browsing activity, which is a positive development for user privacy.
  • DoH may break existing DNS-based ad blocking and security systems, such as PiHole, which could be a significant drawback for some users.
  • ISPs can still monitor user activity even with DoH, as they can see which IP addresses a user has accessed, albeit with reduced visibility.
  • The use of DoH does not necessarily prevent ISPs from spying on users, as they can still resolve IP addresses to site names.
  • Some users are concerned that Google's implementation of DoH could lead to a concentration of control over DNS, which could have negative implications for the internet ecosystem.
  • Others argue that the benefits of DoH, including improved user privacy and security, outweigh the potential drawbacks and that ISPs' concerns are overstated.
  • The implementation of DoH may require users to find alternative methods for blocking ads and tracking, such as using a MITM proxy or a different ad blocking solution.